The people who hear differences in everything are the people who don’t do careful listening tests.
Precisely right.
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The people who hear differences in everything are the people who don’t do careful listening tests.
I love how well LAME MP3 performs even at V2(192kbps VBR) towards AAC/Vorbis, I can't tell V2 from lossless 99% of the time when I do I just up the track to V0. What more ironic they never once cry about games using Vorbis/MP3 for sounds/music, DVD-video lasting 20+ years with AC-3 at 192k stereo and 448k Surround. But when Tidal and Apple switch to lossless streaming suddenly It a night and day difference.I think what is amazing is not how good hi res music sounds but how good lossy music is and how good when the file is so much smaller and such a relatively high quantity of information is missing yet we can’t easily distinguish between them.
Apart from processing by the player software, such as loudness normalisation, EQ or compression/limiting, there’s the potential for the data rate to be stepped down depending on the internet servers and connections, there’s also the potential for the master or distribution copies to be slightly different and of course biases causing perceptual error/placebo is always a real possibility.All other factors being equal of course, if they are not equal what is making the difference ?
Is that a joke?I don’t know why people don’t do controlled listening tests for themselves. It isn’t that much work.
Measurements have definitely their place, as studies and research do or we wouldnt be where we are today and to some degree it helps consumers too, but i dont know, maybe i just have a strange opinion/view of things because what i hear and what i get told or read objective wise just doesnt fit together wellYou're thinking about doing a test for all the wrong reasons. It isn't to prove anything to anyone else. It isn't to serve ego or get bogged down by OCD. It's to get a ballpark idea of what matters and what doesn't. Without that sense, you can't efficiently solve the practical problem at hand.
Sure, you can go by what other people tell you. And you can just not make any effort to be efficient at all and just throw bandwidth at it willy-nilly. Plenty of people do that. But what is there to be learned from that? And how does that help you solve the next problem you run into?
im still in believe that there is a huge discrapency between what people actually hear and what is said to be "audible" by science, IMO this is the biggest flaw i can see with the whole objective vs subjective thing and it would probably explain alot and (with adjusted audible levels) making both partys in end right
Its easy to say its all placebo, but honestly, there are probably more audiophiles than "hardcore objectivists", and i dont believe its all mass-delusion
the tests i do are enough for me, thanksInstead of wasting a bunch of time commenting on website forums go and actually test some stuff for yourself, you probably have all that you need to with the help of someone to help do a blind A/B test just plugging into two different amplifiers. Volume match as best you can and go intentionally either side of the same volume to try and counter the effects of slight volume mismatch.